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Seven metrics to consider when asked to advise a Ph.D. student.

Writer's picture: Jason ThatcherJason Thatcher

I have been asked to advise 20+ students in my career. I've said no to a handful of them.


Each no was for a different reason.


Once I said no because I could not stand the person. The person was a #gossip & stirred pots. I didn't want the headaches.


This intuition was confirmed when their advisor offered to kick them out of the program after a particularly egregious incident.


Once I said no because the student lacked a #workethic. The person promised to deliver work after a course. Later I learned that the course ended five weeks earlier.


This person was kicked out of the program after the faculty realized there was no progress.


Once I said no because I was too busy. The person was a good student. I could not give them enough time to realize their potential.


This person picked another advisor & has had a great run in the #PhDProgram.


Each reason was legitimate.


While #advising#PhDstudents is called a 'choice,' it is also expected for promotion at most universities.


So if you are a #youngscholar or a #midcareerscholar stretched thin, what metrics can you use to help decide on advising?


Compatibility.


I ask, are the student's interests or methods related to mine?


I tell potential advisees, here are my broad interests, I can advise you well, if you do not stray too far from them.


I can't imagine advising on a topic in which I have zero relevant knowledge or expertise.


Personality.


Does the student's personality grind against mine?


I don't expect to be BFFs. We have to be able to have candid meetings. I have to be able to trust them.


I won't advise an ethical quagmire. It causes too much worry.


Work ethic.


Has the student demonstrated a capacity to complete work?


This does not mean the student is fast. This means the student asks and answers questions.


I like to advise students who show a work ethic bc I am confident they will persevere to finish.


Values.


Does the student care about research & teaching?


I don't take students who ignore teaching. Educating kids is the most important thing that I do.


I find vouching for students who succeed in both the lab & classroom much easier.


Independence.


Will the student ever be able to work with minimal supervision?


Not, I don't expect student independence at the beginning of advising, I do as their training progresses.


I want students to go on & write many papers without me. That's my definition of success.


Time.


I ask whether I will have time to advise students properly.


My lab has four students + several visitors in the next year.


I won't add students until a few graduate.


Desire.


I ask, do I want to work with this student?


I have made the mistake of taking a student bc no one else would. It didn't go well.


If I don't want to work with a student, I suggest they find another advisor.


Advising is fun when you like the student, their topic, and have faith in their future!


Best of luck!


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